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Michael Woudenberg's avatar

I'd say that right now the entire idea is to be different and everyone claims it in such a way to actually become confirmist. This was the irony of the hipsters and the typical pattern of the neuro'divergents.' There's such confirmaty to their non-conformity as to become the very thing they hated. Punk was the same, it wasn't hard to tell who the punk rockers were. They conformed

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David Perlmutter's avatar

"...people ultimately voted to have him executed because of the way he saw the world." Actually, they forced him to commit suicide by taking a shot of hemlock, a poisonous substance.

Because of this, writers in later eras, such as 20th century American leftist journalist I.F. Stone, have used his case to demonstrate the mob mentality behind justice in democracies.

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Andrew Smith's avatar

Thanks, David!

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Daniel Nest's avatar

Not at all related, but speaking of tangentially sanity-related tracks, I enjoyed Green Day's "Basket Case" back in the day.

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Andrew Smith's avatar

They had a good couple of records there! Dookie is pretty solid (if saccharine-y) pop punk, IMO. I'm no pop-punk connoisseur, but I was just getting into punk as they were becoming very popular.

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Sum's avatar

In your mind, did scapegoating lead to ostracism or vice-versa?

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Andrew Smith's avatar

Good question! Ostracism is technically a formal process, so I'd suggest scapegoating came first... but it's kind of a chicken-or-egg question, I think.

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Andrew Sniderman 🕷️'s avatar

I wonders how rebellious youth manifests differently across generations. Sure sucked for Socrates, but I think it's an invigorating cycle for every generation else we get stuck by inertia and status quo

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Andrew Smith's avatar

It's good to see these as cycles, right? I think there's a lot to be learned from the lesson of So-crates, as Bill and/or Ted might call him. On the other hand, I'm not trying to drink any hemlock!

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Kaiha Bertollini's avatar

Thanks, Andrew. I needed this reminder today.

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