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Michael Woudenberg's avatar

In Six Sigma, we had the term 'Hidden Factory', which meant it didn't matter what the operations manual said if no one followed it anyway. People would do analysis as if the factory was following the manual and were always confused that the results weren't great. But they never saw the Hidden Factory driven by tribal knowledge.

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Andrew Smith's avatar

That's another very useful phrase. I like it.

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Daniel Nest's avatar

I hear infighting in the Tities tribe eventually led to a serious cleavage between them.

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Andrew Smith's avatar

I very nearly made a boobie joke, but I am so very glad to see that I didn't need to pump this one up at all.

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Daniel Nest's avatar

I personally like to stay abreast of all the dad jokes.

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Andrew Smith's avatar

Daniel, you are truly one in a melon.

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Daniel Nest's avatar

Aaaaw, you're chest saying that.

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Andrew Smith's avatar

I think it's breast if I leave the bewb jokes behind.

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Daniel Nest's avatar

Yeah, let's nip them in the bud.

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David Perlmutter's avatar

Having tribal knowledge is useful for operating within the sphere of work, but it can also work to the disadvantage of those outside of the "tribe" in trying to understand it. If it is used in the presence of someone who is not part of the group, it can become a weapon against those who are excluded for whatever reason.

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Andrew Smith's avatar

Like jargon!

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Rabbi Eli L. Garfinkel's avatar

I think Mac/iOS and Windows/Android are tribes.

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Andrew Smith's avatar

True, but a lot of those differences have been catalogued now. Maybe this is in the transition phase right now, becoming more formalized or something.

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Andrew Sniderman 🕷️'s avatar

Wiki’s are good if you trust your team/employees. When you get a new hire you have them try to do their job by it and correct anything that’s wrong and add anything missing. I just wrote down my family Christmas recipe that I’ve been tweaking the past 20 years so my titty tribe can make it when I’m sick of doing it.

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Andrew Smith's avatar

#tittytribe

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Andrew Sniderman 🕷️'s avatar

That’s the tribe for 2025!

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Andrew Smith's avatar

This is obvious and correct, but I still like the way you said it:

"When you get a new hire you have them try to do their job by it and correct anything that’s wrong and add anything missing."

We did this with the tournament circuit in a manner of speaking, only it was me hovering over their shoulders and asking them what they were doing differently, correcting the document in real time. I think I made a lot of enemies those days.

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Andrew Sniderman 🕷️'s avatar

Goatfury Docs! We used to have a dedicated doc team. They would take the product or the new release, the new feature, and write the user manual or online docs. When we started making the PMs write docs for their own features the product got much better.

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Andrew Smith's avatar

I actually did eventually get around to this approach, and we did a decent job of recording the things. I think the company kind of ran out of steam before we could use them for effective training documents, though- we ran like 150 events in total, which sounds like (and is) a ton from one perspective.... but the events were also somewhat unique, and we were constantly trying to draw lessons from each one.

I have a lot of stuff documented at our gyms too, but the pandemic really shuffled our processes around. They all kind of need redoing at some point.

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Andrew Sniderman 🕷️'s avatar

My piece teed up for tomorrow talks about postmortems which are fun after things go exceptionally wrong. Did you ever have an event that went so bad you knew all the rest would be better? I thought of you and almost went down a rabbit hole on that name

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